So you were so open in 'Becoming'
When you talked about it, there was a (gasp)
Then went to therapy and therapy really was an eye-opener for you and for him
Well, we all need to reflect.
And it's very hard to do it in a marriage
With the person you're trying to work on.
Sometimes you need an objective person to just hear you out.
You know? You may not be right.
You may just want to get it out and have him sitting there, listening to you get it out.
Sometimes that helps.
What did it teach you about yourself?
I talked about this. It taught me that i am responsibble for my own happiness.
That i didn't marry Barack for him to make me happy
No one can make me happy, you know?
So my disappointments were about what i thought he shoud be doing, for me, giving to me
When i hadn't really done the work to figure out what did i want?
And how do i go after what i want on my own, you know?
If I'm going to show up equal in this partnership, I have to be able to make myself happy.
And so I had to stop focusing on what he wasn't doing
And start thinking about how to carve out the life that i wanted for myself with or without Barack.
And the more i did that, the more i succeeded in defining myself for myself, the better i was in my partnership.
And isn't that for you the cornerstone of your own wellness program
is defining your own happiness and working towards that?
Well, one of the things i said, i said this early, what i tried to tell my girls is walk your walk
Yo know, that's been my mantra, one thing i do every year i started doing right after the white house is taking a retreat.
And i think some of the people who, some of my girlfriends who gone on a retreat, we go to this place.
Where you're essentially walking for 4 hours. It is hard.
But you're hiking with other people and what you realize is that everybody has their own way of hiking.
Some people can get up the mountains fast.
Some people are fast on the flats.
Some people are slow and methodical about how they walk.
And i always found that when i was not enjoying my walk is when i was comparing my walk to somebody else in the group.
And i had to sort of start telling myself of these four hours.
"Stop comparing yourself to the person walking ahead of you or behind you!"
"Walk your walk , do you walk."
"Why are you here?"
How fast do you need to go?
How fast do you need to take that incline to get through it.
Because if you do what she did in front of you, you won't make it.
So for me, the message that i always have to tell myself is "What is my journey?"
"What is my definition of health for me?"
Not what i see in a magazine, you know, because the people in magzines don't look like us.
They don't even set it up to look like us.
They don't even look like that, Right?
What are you appreciate most now about your body?
It's Mine, All mine.
And it's a healthy body that works everyday and i try hard not to judge it.
And it is different.
i mean you have to get to know your body because what this body is at 56 isn't this..
i can't do the same thing that i did when i was 36.
i was wondering iff touring the world filling arenas and stadiums around the world help to release some of that self-doubt?
The release doesn't come from the adoration or the book sales.
The work is still from within. That's the thing, you know.
That's the thing. It is! It's the voices in my head.
It's not y'all. It's me, you know.
It's me changing the playbook, the recording in my head that has been played over and over again.
And that's what a lot of women and that's why it take what children hear from me.
You know, I take that very seriously because my voice becomes the part that the recording in their head.
For me, the next phase of my journey of 'Becoming' is really continuing to make sure that what i do has meaning and purpose to somebody outside of myself.
So my vision is in particualr is to keep helping young people
To find and build and support that next generation of leaders to help them understand a broader sense of values that they can operate within.
because i do think that we are short on that right now.
배운점
끊임없이 스스로와 비교하자.
남과 비교하려고 하지 않아도, 문득 남들과 비교하며, 불안에 휩싸이곤 한다.
그럼에도 불구하고. 생각을 나에게 집중해야한다.
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